Comments on: Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/ Media consumer, tech enthusiast, and blogger Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sony: Big News & A Recap of Blunders Just in The Past Year | Bob Caswell http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-3801 Sony: Big News & A Recap of Blunders Just in The Past Year | Bob Caswell Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:25:33 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-3801 [...] Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware [...] [...] Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware [...]

]]> By: Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware | TechConsumer http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1670 Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware | TechConsumer Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:13:20 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1670 [...] This article is cross-posted at BobCaswell.com. Subscribe to TechConsumer: RSS / Email Sphere It 32 Comments Published on: [...] [...] This article is cross-posted at BobCaswell.com. Subscribe to TechConsumer: RSS / Email Sphere It 32 Comments Published on: [...]

]]> By: Sony’s Big News Plus A Recap of Its Blunders Just in The Last Year | TechConsumer http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1528 Sony’s Big News Plus A Recap of Its Blunders Just in The Last Year | TechConsumer Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:33:56 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1528 [...] Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware [...] [...] Sony Charges $50 Extra to Sell You Laptop with No Crapware [...]

]]> By: Rich http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1516 Rich Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:04:01 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1516 Folks, Thank you for sharing your experiences. I used to wonder why sony laptop takes for ever to do anything. I have a dual CPU Vaio Laptop. This damn things runs slower than the IBM Thinkpad T30. Just cant believe this. I already changed battery on my Sony Vaio and my friend also went through changing his battery on his Vaio too. I am sold on the fact that sony laptops are bunch of crap never am I going to buy sony again or recommend sony. Folks,
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I used to wonder why sony laptop takes for ever to do anything. I have a dual CPU Vaio Laptop. This damn things runs slower than the IBM Thinkpad T30. Just cant believe this. I already changed battery on my Sony Vaio and my friend also went through changing his battery on his Vaio too. I am sold on the fact that sony laptops are bunch of crap never am I going to buy sony again or recommend sony.

]]> By: Bob Robinson http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1503 Bob Robinson Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:46:05 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1503 Like bwahahaha above I make money to remove the rubbish. It takes about a hour on most systems so it costs. If OEM's made the "offers" available but not installed and all in one folder, with the icons on the desktop if thy must. Then we could choose whether to install or not. That way the advertisers get their way, the OEM gets some income, the buyer gets to choose to try if he wants; everyone wins. I do think they would have to agree to have proper uninstalls that remove all that they installed including all registry entries, log files and config files. Like bwahahaha above I make money to remove the rubbish. It takes about a hour on most systems so it costs.

If OEM’s made the “offers” available but not installed and all in one folder, with the icons on the desktop if thy must. Then we could choose whether to install or not. That way the advertisers get their way, the OEM gets some income, the buyer gets to choose to try if he wants; everyone wins. I do think they would have to agree to have proper uninstalls that remove all that they installed including all registry entries, log files and config files.

]]> By: Just because you're used to an abusive relationship, it doesn't make it OK. - Someone Else http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1502 Just because you're used to an abusive relationship, it doesn't make it OK. - Someone Else Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:19:45 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1502 [...] crapware on Sony machines coming to the forefront, with Sony USA having the sheer cheek to try and charge customers an extra $50 to uninstall the junk from their new Sony computer so that it actually works properly. The most [...] [...] crapware on Sony machines coming to the forefront, with Sony USA having the sheer cheek to try and charge customers an extra $50 to uninstall the junk from their new Sony computer so that it actually works properly. The most [...]

]]> By: Matt Ellsworth http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1501 Matt Ellsworth Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:04:11 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1501 as crazy as that all sounds... a friend of mine bought a laptop from circuit city and they offered to go through it all and remove all the crap from it for like $20 or so. So apparently vaio isn't the only one. as crazy as that all sounds… a friend of mine bought a laptop from circuit city and they offered to go through it all and remove all the crap from it for like $20 or so. So apparently vaio isn’t the only one.

]]> By: Amazon’s Attempt at Helping Its HD DVD Customers | TechConsumer http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1498 Amazon’s Attempt at Helping Its HD DVD Customers | TechConsumer Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:02:11 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1498 [...] this isn’t nearly as bad as Sony’s marketing mistake, it’s still a bit of an eye roller. In related news, don’t forget to check out [...] [...] this isn’t nearly as bad as Sony’s marketing mistake, it’s still a bit of an eye roller. In related news, don’t forget to check out [...]

]]> By: Skeptic http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 Skeptic Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:02:35 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1500 "Vince says:....You’re under the impression that the $50 the crapware companies pay to the OEM are passed on as savings to the consumer? That’s a joke, as they probably lower the price $2 bucks and line their pockets with the other $48...." Geez, of course it is a savings to the consumer. Do you think that if Sony suddenly gave up the $48 per laptop, they would just eat the loss, do you think shareholders would not demand better returns. If they had to give up the kickbacks from crapware, of course they would make it up by charging the consumer. Don't be deluded into thinking otherwise. “Vince says:….You’re under the impression that the $50 the crapware companies pay to the OEM are passed on as savings to the consumer? That’s a joke, as they probably lower the price $2 bucks and line their pockets with the other $48….”

Geez, of course it is a savings to the consumer. Do you think that if Sony suddenly gave up the $48 per laptop, they would just eat the loss, do you think shareholders would not demand better returns. If they had to give up the kickbacks from crapware, of course they would make it up by charging the consumer. Don’t be deluded into thinking otherwise.

]]> By: Mitch http://bobcaswell.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/comment-page-1/#comment-1499 Mitch Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:53:50 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/03/21/sony-charges-50-extra-to-sell-you-laptop-with-no-crapware/#comment-1499 "Mike Says: .... the fact that windows is bundled by default is damn near illegal especially considering MS is a convicted monopolist in many countries." Huh...If it is "damn near illegal", who are you says is committing the crime? Microsoft is not forcing Sony to buy Windows, so you must be saying that Sony is the criminal for choosing to install Windows. Sony installs Windows because that is what the market demands. If they could make money selling (and supporting) Pre-installed Linux, they would. As it is not yet practical($$$) for them to pre-load Linux, they will continue to load windows. Your statement comes off as a silly fanboy remark, and "damned near" really stupid “Mike Says: …. the fact that windows is bundled by default is damn near illegal especially considering MS is a convicted monopolist in many countries.”

Huh…If it is “damn near illegal”, who are you says is committing the crime? Microsoft is not forcing Sony to buy Windows, so you must be saying that Sony is the criminal for choosing to install Windows. Sony installs Windows because that is what the market demands. If they could make money selling (and supporting) Pre-installed Linux, they would. As it is not yet practical($$$) for them to pre-load Linux, they will continue to load windows.

Your statement comes off as a silly fanboy remark, and “damned near” really stupid

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