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	<title>Comments on: Irony Alert: HD DVD Eases the Pain of Its Death for Owners</title>
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		<title>By: HD DVD Price Drops while Blu-ray Screws Early Adopters &#124; TechConsumer</title>
		<link>http://bobcaswell.com/2008/01/08/irony-alert-hd-dvd-eases-the-pain-of-its-death-for-owners/comment-page-1/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>HD DVD Price Drops while Blu-ray Screws Early Adopters &#124; TechConsumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] add to the irony of the less expensive, more consumer-friendly player dying, check out this news: Buyers Beware: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow; wierd. Never had any problems. We&#039;ve still got the same DVD player we got some 7 or 8 years ago!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow; wierd. Never had any problems. We&#8217;ve still got the same DVD player we got some 7 or 8 years ago!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://bobcaswell.com/2008/01/08/irony-alert-hd-dvd-eases-the-pain-of-its-death-for-owners/comment-page-1/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes sense Bob. I&#039;m with you now. I can&#039;t get too upset either about the great deal I got for the HD-DVD player (thanks to you).

Matt, you must have better luck with electronics than I do. I&#039;ve had to replace many DVD players. Once my HD-DVD playuer is fried, I don&#039;t expect to be able to replace it (or want to unless something drastically changes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense Bob. I&#8217;m with you now. I can&#8217;t get too upset either about the great deal I got for the HD-DVD player (thanks to you).</p>
<p>Matt, you must have better luck with electronics than I do. I&#8217;ve had to replace many DVD players. Once my HD-DVD playuer is fried, I don&#8217;t expect to be able to replace it (or want to unless something drastically changes.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://bobcaswell.com/2008/01/08/irony-alert-hd-dvd-eases-the-pain-of-its-death-for-owners/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t you be able to  play them in 5 years? Your HD DVD player will still plug into your TV. Your HD DVD player will still work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t you be able to  play them in 5 years? Your HD DVD player will still plug into your TV. Your HD DVD player will still work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Caswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Caswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

I&#039;m likely not spending any more on HD DVDs either. In fact, I haven&#039;t bought any other than the 10 that came as part of my original deal of $174. I&#039;m now enjoying HD content via my player solely through HD DVDs from Netflix.

My pain was eased because HD DVD is the more consumer-friendly format. Compared to Blu-ray, lower price = less pain. Also, since most of my 10 movies will work as regular DVDs, $17 per movie with a free player isn&#039;t that bad. I&#039;ll be able to use these movies even after HD DVD&#039;s death (hence, more easing of pain).

The point is, if Blu-ray were the player dying, I would have lost much more money and had a bunch of movies that don&#039;t work on any other standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m likely not spending any more on HD DVDs either. In fact, I haven&#8217;t bought any other than the 10 that came as part of my original deal of $174. I&#8217;m now enjoying HD content via my player solely through HD DVDs from Netflix.</p>
<p>My pain was eased because HD DVD is the more consumer-friendly format. Compared to Blu-ray, lower price = less pain. Also, since most of my 10 movies will work as regular DVDs, $17 per movie with a free player isn&#8217;t that bad. I&#8217;ll be able to use these movies even after HD DVD&#8217;s death (hence, more easing of pain).</p>
<p>The point is, if Blu-ray were the player dying, I would have lost much more money and had a bunch of movies that don&#8217;t work on any other standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://bobcaswell.com/2008/01/08/irony-alert-hd-dvd-eases-the-pain-of-its-death-for-owners/comment-page-1/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your article, I&#039;m wondering about the title. How is HD-DVD easing the pain for its owners? Though I love my HD-DVD player, my pain is not eased by it being such a great product. Did you mean something else?

Given how short of a life most DVD players have, I&#039;m not wasting any more money on HD-DVDs that I may not even be able to play in three or so years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your article, I&#8217;m wondering about the title. How is HD-DVD easing the pain for its owners? Though I love my HD-DVD player, my pain is not eased by it being such a great product. Did you mean something else?</p>
<p>Given how short of a life most DVD players have, I&#8217;m not wasting any more money on HD-DVDs that I may not even be able to play in three or so years.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S D Owen - There are loads of Blu Ray films using VC-1, yes its more common on HD DVD than Blu Ray, and most commonly often on Blu Ray films that were (or at least were planned) to be released on HD DVD and Blu Ray.

VC-1 may require a royalty to Microsoft but it is a better format than plan MPEG4.

Personally I&#039;m HD DVD, I love the &quot;Region Free&quot;ness of it, it allows me to get films from anywhere in the world, the interactivity that Blu-Ray is just starting to get, HD DVD has had since the beginning.

However if HD DVD dies, I&#039;ll just pick up a BluRay player (More than likely a PS3), and buy new films on BluRay instead, until then I&#039;m buying HD DVDs like they are going out of fashion (Which perhaps they are).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S D Owen &#8211; There are loads of Blu Ray films using VC-1, yes its more common on HD DVD than Blu Ray, and most commonly often on Blu Ray films that were (or at least were planned) to be released on HD DVD and Blu Ray.</p>
<p>VC-1 may require a royalty to Microsoft but it is a better format than plan MPEG4.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m HD DVD, I love the &#8220;Region Free&#8221;ness of it, it allows me to get films from anywhere in the world, the interactivity that Blu-Ray is just starting to get, HD DVD has had since the beginning.</p>
<p>However if HD DVD dies, I&#8217;ll just pick up a BluRay player (More than likely a PS3), and buy new films on BluRay instead, until then I&#8217;m buying HD DVDs like they are going out of fashion (Which perhaps they are).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say that like I don&#039;t know that?
Bob makes a good point.

HD DVDs HDi uses XML and ECMAScript (which is powered by Jscript).Its technology is just as easy to grasp. And if bothcompanies have ignored using an open-source approach; why even make the argument?

Content protection is always a joke. Its always got around eventually. WB was part of the HD DVD development. If it was really an issue they would have left some time ago.

Besides, this is about HD DVD owners getting the better deal. Which I do believe they have (and always have).
As HD DVD comes to its end; we could see massive HD DVD sales to get rid of the remaining stock (only an assumption here, but a valid one nonetheless). In terms of cost for each High Definition movie, the HD DVD users certainly got it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that like I don&#8217;t know that?<br />
Bob makes a good point.</p>
<p>HD DVDs HDi uses XML and ECMAScript (which is powered by Jscript).Its technology is just as easy to grasp. And if bothcompanies have ignored using an open-source approach; why even make the argument?</p>
<p>Content protection is always a joke. Its always got around eventually. WB was part of the HD DVD development. If it was really an issue they would have left some time ago.</p>
<p>Besides, this is about HD DVD owners getting the better deal. Which I do believe they have (and always have).<br />
As HD DVD comes to its end; we could see massive HD DVD sales to get rid of the remaining stock (only an assumption here, but a valid one nonetheless). In terms of cost for each High Definition movie, the HD DVD users certainly got it better.</p>
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		<title>By: S D Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>S D Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panasonic has a prototype 8 layer BD-RW that can support 200 GB of storage.  SO BD can support more than two layers.  BD is web based Java making it easier to hire content developers.  The Java code-base means the a Mac, Window and Linux PC can have access to all functions on a Blu_ray.  MPEG-2, HD 264, MPEG-4 with optional support of VC-1, but no studio has used VC-1 on Blu-Ray.  Blu_ray has very stiff content protection.

Microsoft used proprietary, VC-! video. window based technology that would make HD-DVD a Microsoft format.

Consumers need open standards, neither camp has been good at doing that.

WB chose Blu-Ray because of strong sales in europe and asia as well as the high quality content protection provided by camp Blu-Ray.  Time Warner has been hurt the most by piracy and HD-DVD failed to realize how important this issue was to WB.

In the end WB needed to make a choice, they chose Blu-Ray, they own a lot of content and Toshiba should give up on HD-DVD and focus on network storage if they want revenge since that is the way the market will go in the next 5 to ten years anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panasonic has a prototype 8 layer BD-RW that can support 200 GB of storage.  SO BD can support more than two layers.  BD is web based Java making it easier to hire content developers.  The Java code-base means the a Mac, Window and Linux PC can have access to all functions on a Blu_ray.  MPEG-2, HD 264, MPEG-4 with optional support of VC-1, but no studio has used VC-1 on Blu-Ray.  Blu_ray has very stiff content protection.</p>
<p>Microsoft used proprietary, VC-! video. window based technology that would make HD-DVD a Microsoft format.</p>
<p>Consumers need open standards, neither camp has been good at doing that.</p>
<p>WB chose Blu-Ray because of strong sales in europe and asia as well as the high quality content protection provided by camp Blu-Ray.  Time Warner has been hurt the most by piracy and HD-DVD failed to realize how important this issue was to WB.</p>
<p>In the end WB needed to make a choice, they chose Blu-Ray, they own a lot of content and Toshiba should give up on HD-DVD and focus on network storage if they want revenge since that is the way the market will go in the next 5 to ten years anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Caswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Caswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drake,

I&#039;ve heard the storage space argument before... Is that all I get for giving up region free discs, decent price, and backwards compatibility? I&#039;m not sold.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve heard the storage space argument before&#8230; Is that all I get for giving up region free discs, decent price, and backwards compatibility? I&#8217;m not sold.</p>
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